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BetwixtTheStitch message #1
Tunisian Crochet
September 14, 2013 at 10:42:15 AM
 
After not having done any tunisian crochet for many years, I've been playing with it again recently, mainly because I prefer it for color work.
I started playing around with the TKS to see if I could make cables. I've seen them done with standard crochet stitches and I guess they are ok. I just like the look of knit better for garments.
I did figure out how to do a simple cable using 2 seperate hooks, and with a little practice they were looking fairly nice.
However I decided to take the plunge and order Kim Guzman's book on making cables. Smile
Can't wait to get it, hoping it will give me some good info, some of my pattern ideas would really benefit from the addition of cable work.




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Re: Tunisian Crochet
September 14, 2013 at 7:06:33 PM  (in response to BetwixtTheStitch message #1)
 
Sherry,

Oooh, can't wait to see what you're doing...sounds so neat!  Smile

The TKS is my favorite of the Tunisian stitches.  I once made a scarf with just that stitch...such a lovely, warm garment it turned out to be!  Smile

I'm glad the cables turned out well!

Kim Guzman has some great reference materials.  I've been following her work for years!  Smile


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Re: Tunisian Crochet
September 15, 2013 at 10:15:32 AM  (in response to Stitchboard Admin message #2)
 
I do hope you're right about her books Melanie. So many of the books I've come across don't go beyond basic stitches, so this will be my first time purchasing a reference book.
I've also been considering a reference book on tunisian stitches, I was not aware there were so many variations and would love to add to my knowledge. Do you have any recommendations?


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Re: Tunisian Crochet
September 15, 2013 at 2:25:45 PM  (in response to BetwixtTheStitch message #3)
 
Sherry,

I would call Kim Guzman the guru of Tunisian crochet!  I don't know how far her books go back, but in this industry, pretty far.  Smile

LOL, believe it or not, my own knowledge of Tunisian predates ever having seen a single Kim Guzman book or being aware of her name at all.  When I first learned Tunisian...probably about the time the Earth's crust was still cooling Wink, there were such limited materials.  What I had was a book called the Reader's Digest Guide to Needlework.  I'm sure it's still available...for at least 30 years, they hadn't changed it in the slightest, but sometime in the '90s or early '00s, they did update it, gave it a new cover, and likely newer, more updated materials.  What they changed, I have no idea.  It's kind of a pricey book, so I figured my elderly copy works perfectly fine.  Wink

The book is more of a general stitching book (knitting, crochet, etc), though, not a strictly Tunisian reference like you're looking for.  Undecided  I guess my suggestion would be to check it out if you have a Michael's near you before you consider buying it...I know for a fact my local Michael's store used to sell it and would be very surprised to find they've stopped.

Going by memory, they had a small section where they mentioned a number of different Tunisian stitches.  That's where I got the idea to make a scarf in Tunisian stockinette.  Literally, I chained whatever number of stitches I thought would work and then kept stitching until it was long enough!  LOL, not a very inventive thing.  But it worked!  It looked like it was a knit scarf and it was much thicker.

If you want a strictly Tunisian reference, I would suggest checking the various books at a craft store or bookstore.  You could also try the Amazon "Look Inside" feature if there's a book they sell that you think might be what you want.  I'm a big believer in trying before you buy...nobody wants to get stuck with a useless book, particularly on such a complex subject!  And as much as I do like the Amazon "Look Inside" feature, I much prefer hands-on, especially for anything related to crafts.  Looking at it on the computer is very difficult for me.  I like to be able to flip through a book and see what's in it, not just the pages the publisher or Amazon has decided they would like to show.

When you do find something, please post your recommendation...knowing what to get when there are so many choices is always helpful!  Smile


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BetwixtTheStitch message #5
Re: Tunisian Crochet
September 16, 2013 at 9:04:21 AM  (in response to Stitchboard Admin message #4)
 
The Michael's in my area has a yarn section barely worth the 10 minute drive, same for Hobby Lobby. Which is why I went ahead and ordered the book form amazon even though I prefer to look "hands on" too.

The only stitches I was taught were the simple, knit, and purl, but I've been playing with different stitches.
If it's like other crafts, I'll end up buying several different books just to make sure I have a complete picture Undecided.  My sister says that is my manifestation of OCD, I chase knowledge in whatever captures my attention.
Since I'm going to end up buying the books anyway, I'll be happy to share about what I learn Wink.


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Re: Tunisian Crochet
September 16, 2013 at 5:23:02 PM  (in response to BetwixtTheStitch message #5)
 
Sherry,

I look forward to hearing what you have to say...you're like a trailblazer sorting through everything!  Smile  I find it's very helpful to have someone else forging ahead and testing what works and what doesn't.  Smile

The nice thing about Amazon is I believe they have a good return policy (I've only heard about it...never tried it personally).  So I think if you find a book is not what you want, you can simply send it back and they refund your money.

I do the same thing re: buying many books on a subject, so whether that's OCD or just curiosity, I'm not sure.  LOL, I call it curiosity (sounds better!).  Wink  Seriously, people who aren't crafters don't generally understand that sometimes you need to get knowledge from more than one source...no one source has it all, IMO!  When I first learned crochet and knitting, I didn't get info from only one book...I bought many books and learned many different stitches.  So why should you do any different with Tunisian crochet?  Smile


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Re: Tunisian Crochet
September 17, 2013 at 9:15:08 AM  (in response to Stitchboard Admin message #6)
 
Melanie,
It has also been my experience that there is no one source that has all the info we need, and I like curiousity better as well Wink.
The book on cables arrived late yesterday, so I haven't had time to give it the attention it deserves, but my first impression is that my technique is very close to hers. The difference being that she uses another hook to redistrbute the loops on her afghan hook, while I find it easier to work off the loops before putting them back on the afghan hook.

I'm not crazy about the patterns in the book, so I'll just work test swatches with different yarn and hooks.
Overall, I'd say it's a good book for the price. Some of the patterns could cost as much on their own.

I've been looking into some of the other tunisian crochet books on amazon and holy moly some of them are very pricey! Like the "101 Easy Tunisian Stitches" that is over $200. I can buy several other books without hitting that mark!
There aren't many books on just stitches, Kim Guzman has one that I can start off with. Then I may have to buy patterns to fill in tidbits here and there.


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Re: Tunisian Crochet
September 17, 2013 at 11:02:59 PM  (in response to BetwixtTheStitch message #7)
 
Sherry,

Thank you for all of the helpful info!  Smile

It's probably a good thing that one source doesn't have everything we need...when would we have the chance to indulge our "curiosity"?  WinkWink  (And what a nice story to stick to, huh?!)

It's interesting how you found your technique is pretty close on the cables...perhaps you'd want to publish your version, then, maybe write up a short tutorial for people to do Tunisian cables.  Smile  As a technique junkie, it's the kind of thing I would find interesting, because even if it's something I might never use, it's parked in the back of my mind, and often, it becomes something I end up needing!

You know, it's strange, but many times I've also found that a book I've bought for learning a technique has "meh" patterns made with that technique.  Several years back I bought a crochet book I'd been coveting, forget what it was called, and the patterns in it were "okay," but after all, it was learning the technique itself that was important.

Wow, over $200 for a book?!  Insane!  Actually, I have an idea for you...this was what I did when I found a book was over (ready for this?) $400 used.  It was a book I actually owned in more of a "manuscript" form, but I wanted to know if there were any differences.  I checked it out of the library.  My library got it through Interlibrary Loan, I had a chance to peruse the book (checked my manuscripts and found they were practically identical), and then I returned it and wasn't out a penny.  Smile  So you might try to see if you can get it from your local library.  Smile  I'm sure you're only looking for specific stitches, anyway, so if the book gives you the knowledge you need, you'll be ahead of the game!  Smile

You may also be able to find general crochet books with a few Tunisian stitches in them, although those are usually the most generic stitches, unfortunately.  Also, if a particular crochet book allows searching on Amazon, you could try looking at a table of contents or index to see if they have more than just the generic stitches.  Smile

Hope some of that helps!  Smile


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BetwixtTheStitch message #9
Re: Tunisian Crochet
September 18, 2013 at 8:57:32 AM  (in response to Stitchboard Admin message #8)
 
Melanie,
I had forgotten about the library, yes I've used it as a resource many times, good idea.

Something that bothers me about that particular book is that one of the reviewers said it turned out that "Easy Tunisian" is a trade marked brand name for the authors brand of hooks. It could be a very expensive advertisement for the brand. I've seen that tactic used before.

Yesterday I realized I should have given Kim's book it's own space on another board, I plan on doing just that after spending more time with it.

I've been giving private lessons for years, and I did think I'd be better prepared to teach the cables after using her book. Now I'm thinking that I might try to expand into teaching groups, maybe at the libraryWink.

I hadn't thought of publishing my own, except maybe as instructions with a pattern.


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Re: Tunisian Crochet
September 18, 2013 at 3:23:06 PM  (in response to BetwixtTheStitch message #9)
 
Sherry,

Glad I could help re: the library!  Smile  It's really been a great resource whenever I've been in a bind, wanting to borrow a book that was long out of print and way out of my budget.

Argh, I've seen that tactic, too, of using a book to sell a product.  Frown

I can't wait to hear more of your thoughts about Kim's book!

So glad to hear you've been thinking of teaching others how to work the cables.

You could write up a simple tutorial on your technique for people who aren't lucky enough to attend a class that you'd give.  Isn't that the beauty of all of this online stuff...being able to hand the knowledge off to others?!  Smile  Oh, and I think it would be wonderful if you developed your own patterns from your techniques, as well.


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Re: Tunisian Crochet
September 20, 2013 at 8:54:12 AM  (in response to Stitchboard Admin message #10)
 
Melanie,
I decided to go ahead and start writing a short tut on how I make the cables with a couple of tips I think will make it easier.
I need to work a few more swatches to make sure I understand them well, then I think I'll just post it either in the Tips or Tech section.

We are finally getting some much needed rain and cooler temps here in parched Tx. and I can't think of anything better than throwing some chicken soup in the crockpot and curling up with my hooks Smile.


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Re: Tunisian Crochet
September 20, 2013 at 2:26:04 PM  (in response to BetwixtTheStitch message #11)
 
Sherry,

Can't wait to see your tut...thank you for being willing to post it!  Smile

It's such a pain to do swatch after swatch...but the end result is worth it, IMO.  Smile

Where in TX are you, if you don't mind me asking?  My oldest, dearest female friend is right outside of Austin.

So glad you got the cooler temps!  I dislike summer and winter and only like it "in between," like what you're describing.  I don't like sweating or freezing, especially now that I suffer from bad hot flashes.  Ugh.  It sounds like it would be better for hot flashes in the winter, but that only follows when I happen to be outside during a hot flash.  At night, I get under the covers, shivering, and then when I finally warm up and start to fall asleep...hot flash.  As son as the hot flash is over...back to shivering, only worse, because then I'm sweaty and shivering.

Though the cooler weather is definitely better for working with yarn!  Smile


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BetwixtTheStitch message #13
Re: Tunisian Crochet
September 21, 2013 at 8:34:35 AM  (in response to Stitchboard Admin message #12)
 
I agree with you about making swatches being a pain, Melanie. Otoh, true learning is about experimentation, making mistakes and learning from them.

I'm in Arlington, one of the mid point cities in the DFW area.

Spring and fall are my favorites here, perfect temps. I was lucky enough to not have the hot flashes, but I've always been super sensitive to cold. For instance, temps in the 60's with calm, sunny days are comfortable. But upper 60's on a cloudy, wet day and I'm too cold.
Luckily I don't have to go out much unless I want to these days, so when the weather turns cold, I do like to cuddle up with my yarn and work on an afghan or two Wink, and bake bread.


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Re: Tunisian Crochet
September 21, 2013 at 5:00:17 PM  (in response to BetwixtTheStitch message #13)
 
Sherry,

You're so right.  There is no other way to learn than to try!  As much as I hate making things only to rip them out (or throw them into the scrap bin), it's the only way to learn.  Trial and error can be annoying and tedious, but you have to do what works!  Smile

I located where you are on a map...you're some distance from my friend, then.  Much farther north.  I hope you don't get the hot, hot humid weather that she talks about in the summer!  I'd like to visit her someday, but she already knows I'm not going to be there in the summer or the winter.

Wow, that is lucky, not to have hot flashes!  They drive me nuts.  I find probably the worst times are when I'm sound asleep and am awakened by a really bad hot flash, but I'm too tired to move, so I lay there half-awake and sweat.  Ugh.  These horrid things can't go away fast enough!

I also like temps in the 60's with sun.  I especially like it because then there's no need to run heat or air conditioning!  Smile  And it's not totally unpleasant outside.  You're right about temps in the 60's on a cloudy wet day...ugh, much too cold!  I find that chill goes right through me, even though it's not really a terribly cold temperature.

It's so nice to cuddle up with yarn in colder weather!  Smile


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BetwixtTheStitch message #15
Re: Tunisian Crochet
September 22, 2013 at 8:44:36 AM  (in response to Stitchboard Admin message #14)
 
Melanie,
I have been wondering about converting knit patterns to tunisian, have you tried it?

Also, it occurred to me that tunisian has such a variety of stitches that it may deserve it's own section?
I ordered Kim Guzman's book on the stitches, and a quick perusal leads me to that question.


Sherry

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