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Re: Tunisian gauge
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message #271
Re: Tunisian gauge
February 1, 2014 at 10:55:16 PM
Sherry,
Wow, phenomenal job! It's so nice to see everything at a glance!
I agree with you about how the knit gauge is closest with the I hook...sigh, but no drape and
way
too tight (found that out the hard way with the H hook, which should be close enough to produce similar results).
Do you think the differences are noticeable enough for pictures?
That's ingenious how you also noted the regular sc gauge for comparison. Way different. It's a shame nobody ever gives the gauge for Tunisian on yarn wrappers! It would be
so
nice to know.
I also see what you mean about the P hook. That
is
closest to the crochet gauge, and it's
way
off for garments. Using Tunisian for a knitting pattern for a scarf might be no problem, or perhaps would need a pattern repeat or three eliminated, but something that really depends on size would call for a
major
readjustment.
I can't wait to hear your results on the bulky yarn!
Thanks for doing this and reporting your results!
This is such great info!
Melanie (cat slave and Official Feline Can Opener) =^.^=
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BetwixtTheStitch
message #272
Re: Tunisian gauge
February 2, 2014 at 9:57:11 AM (in response to Stitchboard Admin message #1)
Melanie,
I don't think the difference would show up in pics, until I compare the K and L hooks.
That's the main reason I haven't been anxious to try and get pics.
Tunisian was practically lost before there was a Yarn Council, so I'm not surprised that there are no "standards" on labels and such.
I'm also rethinking our "knit to tunisian" experiment, now I'm thinking that either crochet to tunisian, or chunky knits.
According to the CYC, a chunky yarn (or 5) has a knit gauge of 12-15 st per 4 inches on size 9-11 needles. So that puts us in the ballpark at least.
We can think of it as a chunky knit.
But, as always, a test swatch is a must if gauge matters.
I'm going to frog that lizard scarf,
just too stiff to be suitable for wear.
Sherry
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message #273
Re: Tunisian gauge
February 2, 2014 at 7:18:50 PM (in response to BetwixtTheStitch message #2)
Sherry,
Yeah, it didn't sound like there was enough difference between the swatches for pics, at least not in the smaller sizes.
True about the "standards"...though you know how I feel about those...sigh. And
definitely
true about Tunisian being lost before!
I agree...looks like "knit to Tunisian" will
only
work "sized down" - e.g., bulky to WW, WW to sport, sport to baby/fingering...if we really want to get that small. LOL, which I don't!
Oh, yeah, according to the CYC knit gauge, I can definitely see how chunky goes to WW, because I was getting approximately 4 sts per inch with the H hook. And you're right a test swatch is
vital
when gauge is important, as for a garment!
I agree...if the lizard scarf is too stiff, definitely frog it, sigh.
Is it going to be too wide with a wider hook? Would you have to perhaps use fewer stitches?
Melanie (cat slave and Official Feline Can Opener) =^.^=
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BetwixtTheStitch
message #274
Re: Tunisian gauge
February 3, 2014 at 9:28:00 AM (in response to Stitchboard Admin message #3)
Melanie,
We'll reserve our right to rant about those standards.
On the scarf, I'll just have to do the math.
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message #275
Re: Tunisian gauge
February 3, 2014 at 4:27:57 PM (in response to BetwixtTheStitch message #4)
Sherry,
LOL, I love your way of thinking!
As always, sigh, it comes down to math.
Just thinking...I haven't looked at the book lately...perhaps there's a bulky pattern that would be better suited than the lizard?
Also, there are a
lot
of free scarf/cowl patterns that use bulky yarns...my go-to sites when I'm looking for something specific where I know there will be a
ton
of choices are Garnstudio and Lion Brand. I'm sure there are others, but those sites have
vast
selections of nothing but free patterns!
I'm also thinking that since you've made the lizard once already, albeit in a yarn and stitch that turned out too stiff, perhaps you could redesign something altogether, using some of the same shaping ideas?
Another idea: you could redo the lizard in a Sport weight yarn...if you can find it, sigh.
Melanie (cat slave and Official Feline Can Opener) =^.^=
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BetwixtTheStitch
message #276
Re: Tunisian gauge
February 4, 2014 at 10:18:17 AM (in response to Stitchboard Admin message #5)
Melanie,
I thought of sport, but even when you can find it the color choices are pretty limited.
Although I might go see if Herschnerr's has something suitable.
I've already made a few changes to it, so I may just scrap that one and make my own. Scarves really are easy, after all.
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message #277
Re: Tunisian gauge
February 4, 2014 at 7:27:46 PM (in response to BetwixtTheStitch message #6)
Sherry,
Herrschnerr's is an excellent idea for sport yarn! I agree...the choices really
are
limited.
It's probably easier to deal with if you have a very large LYS with dozens of choices...but the big box stores are terribly limited, with the sport yarn selections being so disappointingly small...
when
they even
have
the sport yarns.
I agree...you can pretty much do what you want with scarves...that's the nice thing about them!
Are you still thinking lizard? It would be so nice if what you did with the eyes could be something that's still useful!
I'm embarrassed to say that I'm at a standstill with the mountain of dishcloths (plus other projects), and now I've added something
else
(pet sweater) to the long, long list.
Bought a skein of SS at JoAnn's for that...40% off, pretty pastel variegated, for someone who is determined to walk around with a tummy picked raw.
This is not going to go over well, but as it's a health issue, it will have to do.
But I really needed to be farther behind, sigh. Guessing I'll be at this through November!
Melanie (cat slave and Official Feline Can Opener) =^.^=
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message #278
Re: Tunisian gauge
February 5, 2014 at 9:40:10 AM (in response to Stitchboard Admin message #7)
Melanie,
Isn't that what we do to ourselves though?
Add more and more WIPs til we get overwhelmed, then work feverishly to get them done, rinse and repeat.
I've still got half baked notions cooking in the back of my mind about that lizard scarf, so I don't know for sure yet. But I will certainly do
something
with those eyes.
I really do miss the Super Yarn Mart we had back in L.A., but they went out of business years ago.
Sherry
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message #279
Re: Tunisian gauge
February 5, 2014 at 5:31:21 PM (in response to BetwixtTheStitch message #8)
Sherry,
We're gluttons for punishment! Add more and more, then work, nose to the grindstone...just to add more work on top of that!
That said, back to TV again last night after a few days of none...finished one more dishcloth.
Two of set #2.
I'm so glad to hear you're going to use the eyes! After all of that work, I was hoping you would!
Wow, Super Yarn Mart...that must have been a really cool place...what a shame it went out of business!
Melanie (cat slave and Official Feline Can Opener) =^.^=
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BetwixtTheStitch
message #280
Re: Tunisian gauge
February 6, 2014 at 8:55:17 AM (in response to Stitchboard Admin message #9)
Melanie,
Yeah, but it doesn't really seem like "work" does it?
It was a wonderful place with aisles and aisles of yarn, threads, tools, and kits.
I think today may be rather unproductive, granddaughter is officially in labor.
Sherry
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message #281
Re: Tunisian gauge
February 6, 2014 at 7:34:17 PM (in response to BetwixtTheStitch message #10)
Sherry,
You're right, it doesn't seem like work. The only reason I just want it to be done, though, is because I want to play! So many ideas to try. I want to get to them and be done with the dishcloths already!
I'm now 3 down on set #2. One more to go, then am more than 1/3 of the way done with
all
of the dishcloths.
Hope your granddaughter's labor is very short-lasting!
Melanie (cat slave and Official Feline Can Opener) =^.^=
~~~~~
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BetwixtTheStitch
message #282
Re: Tunisian gauge
February 7, 2014 at 9:25:02 AM (in response to Stitchboard Admin message #11)
Melanie,
I'm a great grandmama!
He came into the world yesterday evening weighing in at 8 lbs 12 oz.
Mama and baby are doing well.
I'm glad you're getting through the dishcloths. I know it
feels
like they'll never get done when you have so many other things you want to try.
Sherry
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message #283
Re: Tunisian gauge
February 7, 2014 at 11:04:14 PM (in response to BetwixtTheStitch message #12)
Sherry,
Congrats
, great grandmama!
Wow, that is one big boy!
Glad to hear your granddaughter is well.
Those dishcloths really
do
feel like they're going on forever!
And yes, I still want to play!
Congrats again!
Melanie (cat slave and Official Feline Can Opener) =^.^=
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message #284
Re: Tunisian gauge
February 9, 2014 at 9:42:50 AM (in response to Stitchboard Admin message #13)
Melanie,
Thank you, I get to go see him today.
My niece arrived and is stitching those swatches into a throw.
So I taught her the TKS so she can make more to go with it. Looks like I may have to buy another P hook.
She really loves the way it works up so thick (she says fluffy).
I'm still working on that cabled scarf, it's going slowly with so many cables but I have enough to get a pic now. It was supposed to be a birthday gift, and her birthday was last week.
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message #285
Re: Tunisian gauge
February 9, 2014 at 5:56:59 PM (in response to BetwixtTheStitch message #14)
Sherry,
Woo hoo!
I'm sure you'll have a
lovely
time!
How is she putting the swatches together? Is she sewing them (LOL, the way you and I hate to do it)? Or is she crocheting them together?
That's
perfect
how she can make more of them now for enough to make a throw!
I think you definitely will need to get another P hook!
Fluffy...that's a
fantastic
term for it!
It really is such a nice, supple stitch, with plenty of yarn to make it thick and warm.
Awww, I'm sure she'll understand!
A beautifully handmade gift is worth the wait. And no worries, I'm still working on December, so you're doing
far
better than I am!
I did finish 2 sets of dishcloths so far (out of 5), except for the last steps of working in the ends. I also started on set #3 and completed one dishcloth from it. Finishing set #3 will at least be more than halfway done...and I can only hope there's enough yarn for a fifth set, because last time, there wasn't.
But then, that was counting at least 3 "discards" which are now my own dishcloths. So hold your breath that there will be enough!
Melanie (cat slave and Official Feline Can Opener) =^.^=
~~~~~
I'm a beading, knitting and crochet addict. If that means I'm admitting I have a problem, then I admit to nothing. Please refrain from helping me.
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